the babylon with "graven images" quoted from jeremiah and isaiah was not a religious entity but a political entity.
jeremiah 43:12. .
jeremiah 43:13. .
However, it is interesting to note that the USA is simultaneously the wealthiest entity on earth and like ancient Babylon is one of the most religious of the wealthy nations on earth.
Hi prolog2 : I have for a while now thought the USA was Babylon the Great. To me, it's totally political as is most of the happenings in Revelation and Daniel.
the babylon with "graven images" quoted from jeremiah and isaiah was not a religious entity but a political entity.
jeremiah 43:12. .
jeremiah 43:13. .
Hello Prolog:
i don't remember the brilliant author who came up with it, but a couple of months back one of our posters used the format of the false religion tract to design his own response to it.. would anyone have any idea where i need to look, who did it or better yet, a link?.
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thnks.
Hi Bl Swan:
It was brillant:
It's on pg. 5827 Oct. 2006
Title = I got my "own" copy of the new KN #37
By ButtLight
i guess the wt.
got it right, soon means thousands of years.
rev.
Hello,
I had heard a comment from Jim Bakker.. He was saying that Rev. 1:1
A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place.
means that the things will all take place in rapid succession, rather than in short time from then.
Maybe that's what it means in all those spots, that when the end starts coming, it will take place rapidly.
i remember once in the field service, a ms of about 70 years old, former elder, was in the field service with a brother and he drove him straight home even before going out in the field service.
he had an argument with that brother in the car and i don't know exactly what it was about, but i know that this brother placed lots of importance in jesus unlike most jw's and i think this brother was talking too much about jesus door to door, and this old ms knew about this and told him off, but this brother didn't want to change his style, so he was driven straight home.. gee, i found that childish.. this jw that was driven home, belonged to another religion prior, and he never did accept to put jesus on the back burner.
i wonder why he became a jw?
Wow, both of your stories were sad but kinda typical. Yep, JH, you can't differ in ANY way from the message..can you? What a BIG BROTHER type org.!! And it's hard to believe how I, for 26 years, was also thinking that I would be spiritually dead if i wasn't in the org.
So Good to be set FREE.....thank you GOD!!!
i have been researching "michael" for the past 9 months very heavily.
i don't have to work and was a reg.
pioneer who quit.
Jay and James:
Is. 52:14 "To the extent that many have stared at him in amazement- so much was the disfigurement as respects his appearance more than that of any other man and as respects his stately form more than that of the sons of mankind."
i have been researching "michael" for the past 9 months very heavily.
i don't have to work and was a reg.
pioneer who quit.
Dear Moomin:
Jesus said he would return to us as the 'son of man'. Also he said he would return in the same 'manner' as he left. He left as a human. The phrase 'son of man', means: The son of an earthly man. Also the Christ would battle the governments at the battle of Armaggedon, with the sword protruding from his mouth. In Is. 11:4b it says..."And he must strike the earth with the rod of his mouth; and with the spirit of his lips he will put the wicked one to death." So, Jesus speaks, during his ride during the great tribulation.. How could an invisible Jesus take on the government, with words? When I study the prophesies about the 'time of the end' in Daniel and Rev. etc., they seem to be taking place in the US. Jesus would have to start somewhere, if he were a human, right.. Since most entertainment, (movies, books, and television shows, etc) comes from US... and the US has also been the world power, it seems like the place where Jesus could be the most influencial.. on the world..
Jesus would return 'exactly as a thief in the night'. The thing about a thief is that it's a sneeky return, and he wouldn't want to be identified or known to be the Christ... like a thief, (in secret).
All I can say, is I've studied him and he seems to fit the bill to me.
the blood carries oxygen without oxygen we die, so which of these is really the life giver??
gen 2:7"and the lord god formed the man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul" .
apparently its the breath of life specifically being mentioned here - not the blood of life.
Hey Ade, Do you think the 'breath of life' could be the 'spirit'.? The part of us that can connect to God? As he is a spirit too?
dear jehovah,.
it has been a few days since we have last spoken.
well, since i sent you a letter.
seriously??? heres my qualm with that; if you had the power to fix things, to put food into the mouths of little children who are dying of starvation, who dont even have the energy to flick bugs off their faces due to hunger, would you do something?of course you would... any human being with love would.... any creature who truly loved would.. so either god doesnt give a damn, or just isnt as powerful as we want him to be... the fact that he has to PROVE A POINT doesnt wash with me...
--the infamous one
ps while im hanging in there, i think ill use some of the left over rope to hang god too
I really do see your point, and I guess I would have to agree, that God's on vacation. But there is the issue of freewill. And the fact is that Adam and Eve didn't want God involved in their life, as far as stepping in. So we have the kingdom to look forward to, after all this rule of man is finished. I think God is letting Adam and Eve have their way, and he's been stepping back. But I do think, he does help people get through trials on an individual basis. I think he gives a damn, as the prophesies are now coming about to usher in the kingdom. (I know I sound like a witness, trust me I'm through with them.)
i still believe in god.
still believe his name is jehovah or something like it.. still believe that jesus is his son, and he isn't god almighty.. don't believe in the trinity.
i believe in the resurrection.
hi Moomin, Just got your message. How's it going?// Looking over your letter below. I wouldn't want to follow Br. Russell and his gang.. For one reason, he's dead. The holy spirit is alive.. and is revealing new things to his servants, and following the dead, can't possibly keep a person abreast of the new things..
I really can see why you are bitter.. and I am too. I am being totally shunned by everyone I've been friends with for the past 26 years.. They are all asses.. the governing body and the elders.. although some might change still.
I don't know if the 144,000 number is literal or not. But it probably is symbolic. But I don't think we need to worry about it too much.. The new world will be beautiful no matter who we are.. Write soon.. Jesus is the only one we have to look up to, right????
